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GN[NORTH AMERICAN ING MASTERS Round 1 Board 9 - Matthew Harwit (4d) - Yuan Zhou (7d)]PW[Matthew Harwit]PB[Yuan Zhou]WR[4d]BR[7d]DT[2010-08-02]EV[NORTH AMERICAN ING MASTERS]RO[1]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[USGO9 [-\]: Welcome to the 2010 U.S. Go Congress live broadcast of the North American Masters Tournament in Colorado Springs, Colorado, brought to you by the American Go E-Journal, KGS and the American Go Association. Check out our website – www.usgo.org - for the latest Congress reports, photos and game records, as well as go news from around the world.
USGO9 [-\]: This is round 1, board 9.  I'm Ryan Bernstein, your game recorder today.
horacelamb [4d?\]: Go Matthew!
]RE[B+Resign]
;B[dp]
;W[pd]
;B[dc]
;W[pp]
;B[nc]
;W[pf]
;B[kd]
;W[de]
;B[fd]
;W[cc]
;B[cb]
;W[cd]
;B[dh]
;W[ec]
;B[eb]
;W[fc]
;B[ed]
;W[dd]
;B[db]
;W[gc]
;B[gd]
;W[hc]
;B[bc]
;W[bd]
;B[bb]
;W[hd]
;B[gf]
;W[ge]
;B[fe]
;W[ff]
;B[he]
;W[ee]
;B[ge]
;W[fg]
;B[ie]C[USGO9 [-\]: Matthew lifts a stone, hesitates, and puts it back in his bowl
heywardbey [2d\]: whites screwed..
heywardbey [2d\]: how the hell is he 4d
USGO9 [-\]: Play him ;)
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;W[dg]C[heywardbey [2d\]: i did
heywardbey [2d\]: in the AGHS school team tournament
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;B[jc]
;W[cn]C[heywardbey [2d\]: demolished him while doing chinese hw >.>
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;B[cl]
;W[en]C[heywardbey [2d\]: or maybe that was his brother
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;B[fp]C[USGO9 [-\]: Black is actually 8 dan, KGS maxes out at 7
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;W[dj]
;B[el]
;W[gn]C[heywardbey [2d\]: is this aga rating?
heywardbey [2d\]: for each of them
heywardbey [2d\]: if it is.. no wonder.
USGO9 [-\]: It's what they entered Congress at
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;B[cj]C[elementc [5k?\]: Don't you mean that's what the AGA maxes out at
heywardbey [2d\]: ahh no wonder
heywardbey [2d\]: overconfident = =
]
;W[bp]C[heywardbey [2d\]: misplaced slide.
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;B[iq]C[USGO9 [-\]: Yuan Zhou looks to be 8D AGA, elementc, and there are higher
elementc [5k?\]: Yeah, but you said KGS maxes out at 7
heywardbey [2d\]: lol
heywardbey [2d\]: in any case
]
;W[ej]C[heywardbey [2d\]: white is definitely not 4D -.-
elementc [5k?\]: What do you think he is?
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;B[ci]C[heywardbey [2d\]: 2d if hes lucky
heywardbey [2d\]: b4 is a kyu move = =
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;W[dk]
;B[dl]
;W[ck]
;B[bk]
;W[bm]
;B[bl]C[heywardbey [2d\]: see
heywardbey [2d\]: he just had b9 aji
heywardbey [2d\]: but just ruined it
heywardbey [2d\]: b9 c9 b8
heywardbey [2d\]: makes a base and gets rid of his
elementc [5k?\]: ah
heywardbey [2d\]: i bet his opponent is wondering the same thing
]
;W[fk]
;B[cg]C[USGO9 [-\]: Yuan leans in and breathes heavily
heywardbey [2d\]: now all of whites groups on the left are heavy
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;W[cf]C[heywardbey [2d\]: breathes in a sigh of relief right?
USGO9 [-\]: Sure didn't sound like it
heywardbey [2d\]: well black is winning in any case.
heywardbey [2d\]: maybe sigh of discontent as he expected a better match
]
;B[eg]
;W[eh]C[USGO9 [-\]: sorry
heywardbey [2d\]: its cool.
USGO9 [-\]: Zhou's tapping the table
elementc [5k?\]: I wish we had a video feed
elementc [5k?\]: no idea what Zhou looks like
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;B[df]C[USGO9 [-\]: He's wearing a blue shirt and large glasses :)
elementc [5k?\]: Is he kind of a young guy?
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;W[fi]C[elementc [5k?\]: 20s-30s?
USGO9 [-\]: Somewhere around there, wereas Matthew is around 12
]
;B[gh]C[heywardbey [2d\]: oooh immaturity! right.
]
;W[fh]C[heywardbey [2d\]: no wonder hes overranked.
elementc [5k?\]: anyway from what I've seen AGA dan ranks seem to be wekaer in general anyway compared to KGS
heywardbey [2d\]: hmm
heywardbey [2d\]: it better be
heywardbey [2d\]: or i'll feel really bad.
elementc [5k?\]: gamefaqs is 3d here but 6d in the aga
USGO9 [-\]: They are a bit, there's a rank table on Sensei's Library
heywardbey [2d\]: sensei's library chart is kinda out of date
heywardbey [2d\]: lol
]
;B[bf]C[heywardbey [2d\]: really 3d here? is 6d aga?
heywardbey [2d\]: i should be about 5-6d aga then
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;W[kq]C[heywardbey [2d\]: just dropped from 3d = =
elementc [5k?\]: oh oops gamefaqs ranked up at some point
elementc [5k?\]: but I know last year it was still what I said
heywardbey [2d\]: i see
heywardbey [2d\]: i'll start going to some aga tournaments for an ego boost
heywardbey [2d\]: i remember when i looked at the guys account
heywardbey [2d\]: it said he was 3k
heywardbey [2d\]: lolol
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;B[cq]C[heywardbey [2d\]: i forgot what it was though :(
elementc [5k?\]: You mean this Matthew kid?
]
;W[fl]
;B[qn]C[heywardbey [2d\]: yaeh
heywardbey [2d\]: haha
heywardbey [2d\]: and it said he was "3d" at the time
heywardbey [2d\]: it was the north america team tournament
elementc [5k?\]: could be
elementc [5k?\]: it seems to vary pretty massively depending on location too
heywardbey [2d\]: meh :/
heywardbey [2d\]: maybe
heywardbey [2d\]: you have the link to the gamefaqs chart?
elementc [5k?\]: Uh, gamefaqs is an actual account name of a guy I know on here
elementc [5k?\]: lol
heywardbey [2d\]: oooh
heywardbey [2d\]: LOL
elementc [5k?\]: he's 4d here now
elementc [5k?\]: so I don't know what his current AGA rank is
heywardbey [2d\]: haha i was totally fooled.
elementc [5k?\]: ah well these things happen
elementc [5k?\]: :3
elementc [5k?\]: hm
elementc [5k?\]: I've got a question for you actually
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;W[qp]C[elementc [5k?\]: what are your thoughts on white approaching from one space in the upper left
elementc [5k?\]: normally against the kobayashi
elementc [5k?\]: I always do low two space
elementc [5k?\]: but I dunno how having L16 instead of K16 changes things
heywardbey [2d\]: oh sorry
heywardbey [2d\]: i was on facebook
heywardbey [2d\]: i didn't see that part :/
elementc [5k?\]: well I'm referring to the opening moves
USGO9 [-\]: White has 1:01 left, black has 1:10
heywardbey [2d\]: i know
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;B[qk]C[elementc [5k?\]: you can clone it
heywardbey [2d\]: oh
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;W[qi]C[heywardbey [2d\]: oh
heywardbey [2d\]: i see what u ment.
heywardbey [2d\]: l16 removes the defect of m17 invasion
heywardbey [2d\]: so it is sometimes favored by some players
elementc [5k?\]: yeah
elementc [5k?\]: but at the same time
elementc [5k?\]: it seems it would make invadine on the left of the formation easier
elementc [5k?\]: *invading
]
;B[qc]C[heywardbey [2d\]: trust the 7d ;)
heywardbey [2d\]: haha
]
;W[pc]
;B[pb]
;W[qd]C[heywardbey [2d\]: anyways its over really.
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;B[rb]
;W[rc]
;B[qb]C[heywardbey [2d\]: black territory way to much
elementc [5k?\]: it wasn't the 7d who approached one space though
heywardbey [2d\]: hm?
elementc [5k?\]: I'm referring to white's decision
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;W[on]C[heywardbey [2d\]: wait wut.
elementc [5k?\]: to approach one space
elementc [5k?\]: usually when I see kobayashi white approach the 3-4 stone from two spaces away instead of one
heywardbey [2d\]: i see
heywardbey [2d\]: well its not ALWAYS the case.
heywardbey [2d\]: but its common
heywardbey [2d\]: for low two space
elementc [5k?\]: what I was wondering though
heywardbey [2d\]: actaully
elementc [5k?\]: was how L16 factors in
heywardbey [2d\]: the truth is
heywardbey [2d\]: his approach was a mistake
heywardbey [2d\]: because
heywardbey [2d\]: black can do a two space high pincer
heywardbey [2d\]: l16 will assist black
heywardbey [2d\]: white will have much trouble
heywardbey [2d\]: but he did anyways.
heywardbey [2d\]: so
heywardbey [2d\]: its all good
elementc [5k?\]: ah well
elementc [5k?\]: I hate the kobayashi anyway
heywardbey [2d\]: lol
heywardbey [2d\]: its alright
elementc [5k?\]: mini/micro chinese for me any day
heywardbey [2d\]: if r9 lives
heywardbey [2d\]: time to resign
heywardbey [2d\]: because territory difference is obvious right now
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;B[ok]C[heywardbey [2d\]: not to mention plenty of defects in whites "territory"
elementc [5k?\]: Is Zhou grunting in boredom now?
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;W[pl]C[heywardbey [2d\]: i sure hope so.
heywardbey [2d\]: i would ;)
heywardbey [2d\]: if i was 7d
heywardbey [2d\]: haha
USGO9 [-\]: Nope, he's intent as even
]
;B[pk]C[heywardbey [2d\]: aw
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;W[ql]C[heywardbey [2d\]: he needs to show more emotion
heywardbey [2d\]: i hate that q8 peep
heywardbey [2d\]: its just lame = =
heywardbey [2d\]: peepin in the girls locker room O_O
heywardbey [2d\]: i really wonder what goes on in there anyways haha
elementc [5k?\]: what can white possibly hope to do
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;B[rl]C[heywardbey [2d\]: only playing for pride now
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;W[rm]
;B[ri]C[heywardbey [2d\]: good move by black
heywardbey [2d\]: i should try that more often
heywardbey [2d\]: if white s12, black s10
heywardbey [2d\]: two cutting points
heywardbey [2d\]: if white s9 black s10 white eats, black r12
heywardbey [2d\]: white is in serious trouble
]
;W[rk]
;B[rj]C[heywardbey [2d\]: s9 is only choice really
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;W[sl]
;B[qh]C[heywardbey [2d\]: white. i have to say, good luck
elementc [5k?\]: wow
elementc [5k?\]: I didn't expect white to
elementc [5k?\]: actually make the cut
elementc [5k?\]: it seems pretty pointless
elementc [5k?\]: Am I missing something here?
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;W[rg]C[USGO9 [-\]: Matthew leans back and crossed his arms, Zhou goes "Hmmm..."
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;B[qg]C[elementc [5k?\]: it looks more like a teaching game
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;W[qf]C[heywardbey [2d\]: zhou goes hmm wth is this guy doing
heywardbey [2d\]: s15
heywardbey [2d\]: gg
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;B[re]C[heywardbey [2d\]: LAWLZ
heywardbey [2d\]: time to bow in defeat
elementc [5k?\]: I just don't understand white
heywardbey [2d\]: if it lives black wins anways
elementc [5k?\]: he should know better than this
heywardbey [2d\]: i told you
elementc [5k?\]: even a 3k
heywardbey [2d\]: its because hes not really 4d...
elementc [5k?\]: should know better
heywardbey [2d\]: haha
heywardbey [2d\]: well
heywardbey [2d\]: hell*
heywardbey [2d\]: you could beat him prolly.
elementc [5k?\]: maybe not but
elementc [5k?\]: it's just really surprising the moves he made
heywardbey [2d\]: wait whats ur rank
heywardbey [2d\]: O.o
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;W[pi]C[elementc [5k?\]: I'm not sure
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;B[rf]C[heywardbey [2d\]: lol
heywardbey [2d\]: is white serious about this.
heywardbey [2d\]: ...
elementc [5k?\]: oh
elementc [5k?\]: he's still playing
elementc [5k?\]: haha
]
;W[ph]
;B[pg]C[heywardbey [2d\]: good players know when to resign >..
cloud [2d\]: he is 12
cloud [2d\]: give him a break
heywardbey [2d\]: but not 4d
heywardbey [2d\]: thats the point
heywardbey [2d\]: = =
heywardbey [2d\]: sigh okay ill give it a break
cloud [2d\]: you should play him before you question his rank
heywardbey [2d\]: i did play him
heywardbey [2d\]: pwnt.
]
;W[og]C[heywardbey [2d\]: hell this is prolly aga rank
]
;B[rh]C[heywardbey [2d\]: so watevesr
elementc [5k?\]: it is
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;W[qj]C[heywardbey [2d\]: kinda disturbing how weak we are T.T
heywardbey [2d\]: in america
elementc [5k?\]: well
elementc [5k?\]: it's just a ranking man
elementc [5k?\]: if you look at Japanese ranks
elementc [5k?\]: they tend to be way weaker for a given rank than KGS as well
]
;B[oh]
;W[oi]
;B[nh]
;W[ni]
;B[mi]C[elementc [5k?\]: but that doesn't mean the average Japanese amateur is weaker than here
heywardbey [2d\]: haha
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;W[mh]
;B[ng]
;W[mj]
;B[li]
;W[nk]C[elementc [5k?\]: Ever played on wbaduk?
heywardbey [2d\]: we'll we're dumb americans. wat else is there to expect
heywardbey [2d\]: naw
heywardbey [2d\]: why?
heywardbey [2d\]: is it hella rough
heywardbey [2d\]: its korean right
elementc [5k?\]: I've beaten 3d there
elementc [5k?\]: which means
heywardbey [2d\]: WTH
elementc [5k?\]: 3d there is super weak
heywardbey [2d\]: ...
heywardbey [2d\]: do alot of ppl play there?
elementc [5k?\]: oh yes
heywardbey [2d\]: oh god
heywardbey [2d\]: i should go there for an ego boost
elementc [5k?\]: it's separated into 3 servers for korea
elementc [5k?\]: 3 for china
elementc [5k?\]: and 1 for japan
elementc [5k?\]: each has a cap of about 2000 players I think?
heywardbey [2d\]: this is good enoguh for black
heywardbey [2d\]: just be safe now
]
;B[lj]C[elementc [5k?\]: the reason the ranks on wbaduk or so strange
elementc [5k?\]: rank isn't calculated via an algorithm
elementc [5k?\]: it's based on points earned
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;W[lk]C[heywardbey [2d\]: oh wow
heywardbey [2d\]: can you lose points?
elementc [5k?\]: yeah
heywardbey [2d\]: well then its just like IGS
heywardbey [2d\]: IGS is pretty dam strong
elementc [5k?\]: but the most irritating thing is
heywardbey [2d\]: im only 1d+ on IGS
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;B[jj]C[mach1 [-\]: can we please keep conversation related to the game in here heyward and element if you want you can continue your side discussion via pm 
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;W[jo]C[heywardbey [2d\]: fine
heywardbey [2d\]: sorries
mach1 [-\]: thanks
heywardbey [2d\]: h4 blacks
heywardbey [2d\]: black*
heywardbey [2d\]: just be safe
heywardbey [2d\]: or just h3
]
;B[kr]C[heywardbey [2d\]: l2 i liked that :)
elementc [5k?\]: Anyway, as for the game again... I still don't get what white is hoping for
heywardbey [2d\]: for pride
heywardbey [2d\]: ...
heywardbey [2d\]: down by about 30 with nothing that it cankillanymore
heywardbey [2d\]: white m2 in gote
heywardbey [2d\]: or white k2 and lose lots of points
]
;W[hq]C[heywardbey [2d\]: oh rly.
heywardbey [2d\]: g3.
heywardbey [2d\]: for safety.
heywardbey [2d\]: iono about h4 
heywardbey [2d\]: actually i like g3
USGO9 [-\]: Zhou "Hmm"-ing again
]
;B[gq]C[heywardbey [2d\]: OH YEAH
heywardbey [2d\]: he did my move
heywardbey [2d\]: g3 <3
]
;W[hp]
;B[hr]C[heywardbey [2d\]: if white wanted a chance, may as well h2
heywardbey [2d\]: definitely over now
]
;W[jr]
;B[jq]
;W[lr]
;B[kp]
;W[lq]
;B[ir]
;W[jp]
;B[kk]C[heywardbey [2d\]: black b3 <3
heywardbey [2d\]: l9 is big too, but b3 is safety move at this point
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;W[kl]C[heywardbey [2d\]: yay k8
]
;B[ll]
;W[mk]
;B[jl]
;W[km]
;B[jm]
;W[kn]C[heywardbey [2d\]: b3
heywardbey [2d\]: biggest move on the board
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;B[hi]
;W[ik]
;B[jk]
;W[bq]
;B[br]
;W[ij]
;B[ii]C[heywardbey [2d\]: does.. white really think he can still win = =
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;W[dr]
;B[cr]
;W[gg]
;B[hg]C[USGO9 [-\]: White resigns
heywardbey [2d\]: finally!
xedover [?\]: thanks usgo9
USGO9 [-\]: Mmhm
sweety [-\]: thanks USGO9~
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